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Post by bamber Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:20 am

First topic message reminder :

DO you think stalin is a dictator
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Post by Furman Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:46 pm

Russia is my homeland. I can not speak about her bad, and such comments do not have ... Russia, as always, is separate from its government, which unfortunately has accumulated a lot of questions about finances and human ... If you want to learn Russian, you must have a firm will, believe me, English is only 1/5 part of the whole Russian language ... It is much harder to Grammar and cases ... Generally 5 years in school we, Russian, learn our own language, it is difficult ...

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Post by mr.skin Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:54 am

When I was in Russia I saw that many of the younger generations spoke english very good, especially the children, they spoke as good as I do.

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Post by Furman Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:46 am

We also teach English in school ... Do not think that the Russian - a people who are constantly drinking vodka, sitting on a tree and sang the "Internationale" ...
We have an excellent school officials, well, can not so rich ... Unfortunately, Russia has no Bill Gates, who agreed to most of his vast wealth to invest in the development of education in the USA ... In addition, I have been in many Russian cities, and like in Kazan, where enrolled 50,000 students, I saw a lot of black young people with books in hand and at the entrances to the universities ... Judge for yourself .... And you should not believe everything they say about the Russian in the world, believe in my country is home to over 100 nationalities, but Russian nationalists call!! Stupidity!!In Russia, Russian - is very negligible!!! And we should not be afraid, we both stand on his knees after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the coming to power all sorts Putin and Yeltsin ... My poor, long-suffering motherland suffered a lot, and now survive ....

And by the way, a lot of gold in Prague, made of Russian gold! I'm talking about gold of Kolchak, recovered by the Czechoslovak Corps in Russia after passing a red Kolchak, General Janin and execution of Admiral! Even such seemingly different powers have shared a sad page in history ... And these pages have a lot of Russia ... And after all this, we're ENEMIES!
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Post by Sir Robert dudley Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:44 am

Well it sucks that yall are polticial detached that happens here too in US but not when things are as bad as they are now but during Bush's first and his start of his first term people diden't care and then Obama comes in and the world freaks out. It seems that when things turn bad people look for government help then when the government wants to help they can't and then the presidents get bribed by crooks and turn into a shity president that can't do nothing man i liked Obama at the beganing but now he sucks but i give it to him he will alwas be better then any Republican.
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Post by Furman Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:50 am

Of course, McCain brought up on the Cold War, and, moreover, has little in my age, for America does not make the sweet life ...
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Post by lin0leum Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:05 pm

obama is just a puppet. doesnot matter if republican or democrat, both of them r just 2 sides of one coin. 2 obedient servants of the same ruling class of bank shareholders and financial profiteers.
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Post by lin0leum Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:13 pm

feck apologies for offtopick Neutral any admin to move these posts somewhere else? otherway we only make the thread about worldwide famous traitor of communism looks like the most popular on the whole socialist forum^^
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Post by joseph kalinin Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:31 pm

It is better if we do not call him traitor.. I am here trying to find the middle way but people keep insulting Stalin.. If this thing keeps going I will start insulting what I should from the first time.

so please, keep your insulting ideas to yourselves. I even said trotsky was a revolutionary! OMG! so yeah, do you realize the sacrifice I made? Smile
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Post by lin0leum Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:38 pm

trotsky was revolutionary ... once ... maybe.
dont hesitate and insult what u find offensive. i bet we can stand it.
appreciate ur sacrifice^^
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Post by Sir Robert dudley Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:58 am

Ok i agree he is not a traitor but he did things that we should not but hasitate to ever do. Lenin was a good leader so far that i have read but i don't know much as i and nearly everone on the planet earth know how stalin was and if he really did order the murders of millions of people. If this really happen then he in terms is a bad man. I don't know if he was a trator but certainly not someone i would base my philosophy or my ideology off of as i would never support the murders of millions of people as Marx really never belived in capital punishment. So how could something like that becalled Marxist-Stalinest. OR Marxist-Leininist-Stalinist.

But i do agree we should just leave this topic alone and move on we a communist or soicalist where fight for freedoms and belive in equality so we are allowed to belive in any forum of the ideology we want.

But we should not change the ways we acomplish things and must listin to the people and allow them to lead. No just one person.

Parties tend to fracture but we must stay strong and join in the common fight to radicate the capitalist system not the people.
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Post by chorrito Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:54 pm

Adolf Hitler created a super-power too. Does it make him good?

And how can an ML justify closing socialism into one country while it needs to be spread to other countries "openly". I emphasized "openly". Because, when the USSR saw that it cannot stay in its borders and do nothing against capitalist countries, it started to use methods of USA to make countries enter the Eastern Bloc: oppression, arms-sales, puppet-governments that were not the voice of people but the USSR, economic and military pressure, and creating a dependancy relation between USSR and allied countries instead of developing their own industries. I don't mention the murders of many ideological leaders of October revolution, including Trotchky, and murders of millions in Central Asia and Eastern Europe.

The Stalin era was the era of one-man government instead of the government of Soviets in the USSR. After Stalin's death, many people tried to do something to turn back to the first days of the Revolution; but the situation didn't let them act rapidly and freely. Because they inherited what Stalin left behind: an empire which is based on national asimilation (Russian effect) and political games, a socialist state which forgot the principles of internationalism and focused on the "national" interests of Russian state, inevitable capitalization in terms of industrial and trade policies, and a government system based on personal ambitions, power and interests.

I wish the one after Lenin was Trotchky but not Stalin.

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Post by mr.skin Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:03 am

If it was Trotskij who came to power, Soviet Union would have collapsed. He didn´t even have support from the people, he never did because what he did was fucked up. Do you really think someone that tells his followers to blow up mines and factories will be popular? Do you think someone that not long time ago were at the same side as the counter-revolutionaries would gain support?

Trotskij himself also voted for Stalin to be chairman of the party. It was also Kalinin that was the head of state in the USSR, not Stalin. Trotskism is not socialism. You know that if you deny marxism, then you´re revisionist.

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Post by Leo Ruby Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:03 am

YES

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