(POLL)is stalin a dictator

DO you think stalin is a dictator

do you mean RL stalin? just asking

yes RL stalin

I am going to guess that Fernando is the person that voted no xD

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DAMNIT!


He was the people's voice.

I'm going to guess that the other person that voted no was mr.skin

XD

Oh guys only good thing about Stalin were his mustaches

If you ridicule Stalin, please spell Moustache right.

we new what he ment so it is ok if you spell wrong,just as long as we understand.

dictator that made Soviets to live its golden age.. everyone would love to have a dictator like him..

joseph kalinin wrote:dictator that made Soviets to live its golden age.. everyone would love to have a dictator like him..

Sorry mate but I do not agree. A communist cannot avoid freedom. This is not socialism, this is another name for oligarchy

freedom?

Is spreading capitalist ideas freedom? Working with imperialist is freedom?

Explain freedom.

A communist should stand against the freedom of spreading nationalistic, capitalistic, and liberal ideas..

The ideas that force humanity to go backwards can not be named as freedom.

If they are called, the one who calls them is not a communist but liberal.

Freedom is when one respects all human and nature's rights one who dosen't hurt, judge, kill, oppress people with no valid reason.

Just because America failed with it's pratices it dosen't mean it was wrong in the begining of Foundation it started to preach the right ideals but these where lost under the free market when people forgot that they had more rights then the few who rule overthem.

Freedom is not one party running the government it's not putting the laws of the individual aside to when elections it's not using power to force people to do things for you it's not to forget human rights when you become on top. Money is not the only thing humans have greed over it's power and just like we need to redistubute wealth we also must put the power back into the working class adventually the only class left after the revolution. No Parties would exist in government only commetties for citizens who would like to be involved.

FREEDOM is alot of things it no government can be justiful with out it. Freedom from Fear, opression, explotation, predujce, racism, and alot more.

Sayin that there were no classes other then the prolatariat in Soviet Russia after the October Rev. is very naive. and also it shows people that you do not really know enough information about the October Rev.

I must ask... If there were no classes left in soviet russia, why did they bother establishing socialism? couldn'nt they go and establish communism? No classes mean, no struggle but soviets did struggle against the classes even after the revolution, and actually the struggle did not stop until the traitor. Maybe Brejnev too..

Just wanted to point that out..

Just to make things clear.. Are you a marxist-leninist?

If so, how can you say what you just said?

How can you say that there shouldnt be a party? Read the party theory.

About freedom.. you continue to speak abstract. You come here and talk about human rights and individual rights.. I ask you again.. Is spreading nationalism to the masses freedom of speech? Can we say that?

Spreading anti-semitism is freedom of speech?

For me..

I do not think so. I think the people who try to spread this ideas are guilty against the people of the world and should be punished with revolutionary violance!

This may be extreme, but yea prisoned.. (:

What do we know about the socialist democracy?

Give us the reasons, and point out Stalin's mistakes about the socialist democracy.

We all know there is no such thing as a perfect creature.. Stalin was not perfect..

But!

Today, throwing shit to Stalin means throwing shit to socialism. Stalin is the establisher of socialism in Soviets!

Imperialism tries to show Stalin as bad, but does nothing against Lenin.. (Lenin was more harsh then Stalin) Lenin, as the image of a romantic revolutionary, and Stalin as the image of socialism, dictator.. which means socialism = bad.

I am saying here that Soviet Union lived its golden age under Stalin's presidentcy.

Stalin created a super world power from the ashes.. a country who gave millions of lives against the fascist-imperialist empire..

a country, destroyed by the nazis, did manage to rise from its ashes..

We owe that to Stalin!

We owe to him that we can say now 1/3 of the world was under socialist flag, what utopia!?

we owe him our freedom.

we owe him thanks for saving the world from nazis!

Not perfect, but a great man, in deed!

u can never know the truth for shure. because u was not there. u didnot witness the course of events in soviet union back those days.
last post of comrade dudley i can totaly agree with (maybe except the last paragraph about government, which should be abolished completely).
call me brainwashed by liberal propaganda but stalin's bolshevism seem identical to fashism to me. except some ideological background of little importance and influence in everyday life.
personality cult. patriotism/nationalism. party dominance. keepin the parasitic classes in society alive. even those couple things r more than enuf to condemn such a systm. none of this have place in communism.
stalin was a joke. a sad one

joseph kalinin wrote:

Spreading anti-semitism is freedom of speech?

And killing Huns, Czechs and Ukrainians?

there is a freedom of speech or there is none. nothin in between.
deeds>>talks
one can have mouth full of fancy words about the better world while doin complete bollocks and harm pple. and vice versa.

lin0leum wrote:u can never know the truth for shure. because u was not there. u didnot witness the course of events in soviet union back those days.
last post of comrade dudley i can totaly agree with (maybe except the last paragraph about government, which should be abolished completely).
call me brainwashed by liberal propaganda but stalin's bolshevism seem identical to fashism to me. except some ideological background of little importance and influence in everyday life.
personality cult. patriotism/nationalism. party dominance. keepin the parasitic classes in society alive. even those couple things r more than enuf to condemn such a systm. none of this have place in communism.
stalin was a joke. a sad one

First of al your thesis is not mature. Me not living in Soviet Russia does not make me know things less. That is the reason we have books and archives of the countries.

The state, of course, should be abolished but that is when the socialist revolutions end and get complete. After socialism, the state will be abolished.

There is no such thing as Stalin's bolshevism. Stalin is the actual theorician of Marxism-Leninism. There is no such thig as Stalinism.

You seem to mix patriotism and nationalism..

Nationalism suports the idea of there is only one cause and only one good for all the people in the nation meaning the bosses have the same cause as the working class. This is not supported by the soviets. Stalin fought against the nationalist ideas.

On the other hand, patriotism is the idea that supports there is only one good cause which is the cause of working class.

Marx says: The working class does not have a country, because they can not be a part of something that is not theirs.

In a socialist state, however, the working class is the owner of the state, thus patriotism works there.

Party dominience is needed, as the theory tells us. Read "What is to be done?" by VI Lenin. You will see why it is critical to have a leading party.

The thing people needs to understand is that the classes do not abolish right after the revolution. The struggle against the classes continue even after the revolution.

of course these things do not have any place in communism. but we have to remember that USSR was a socialist state.

do u 100 percent believe what u read in a book? i remember there was a hudge monument of stalin+lenin in the city i used to live in czech rep. the real proof of the personality cult i eyewitnessed.

ok there is slight difference between nationalism and patriotism. however, both do have same poisonous effect. theyre both constructs to divide the workin class, therefore patriotism cant bound to the workin class at the same time. therefore they're both reactionary.

dominance of the proletariat (the productive class) accomplished by the workers' soviets is needed. not the party. parties r undesirable relics of representative democracy. here in erep party should be used only as a lever or a brake to stop and push reactionary forces in congress aside away from the decision makin process.

well there may be some positives on jozif. but when a skilled baker murders someone, u really just say 'shit happenes' and pardon him? i bet u wont. the delicious pastry he used to made dont make him less guilty.

cheers for the tips. ive d/loaded what is to be done. 137 pages seems like i have somethin to do during the weekend.

dosvidania

What was the name of the war that drove the nazi army away from Czech lands?

Great Patriotic War?

Ok a lot needs to be said and i might not get everything stated in one blow.

About We on it to Stalin for defeating Nazi's hum yea it was only Stalin out there fighting no wrong did was Stalin in the Army did Stalin kill a Nazi did he ever fight in the War don't think so we owe are lives to the brave man who fought that war against the Fascist dictators not just one man your foolish for thinking that...

Next yes i am a Marxist, Marx don't believe in Capital Punishment at all he was against that Jail and prison for offenders yes but people who are just stupid and speak for Fascist ideals don't deserve to be killed for it. How would you like to be hanged for being a socialist it has happen before with ideals like you? Socialism must separate its self not use the crimes it fought against.

Lin0leum i do believe in the demolished government i was saying that if any government to be justifiable must allow freedom on all levels not just to one people no matter what the case is. Being a Fascist believer or a Socialist Rebel or an Ex-Capitalist in a Socialist society. People must join together and forget the hatred and allow personal freedom.

Joseph how good would a Fascist do and any society now days nothing many would not listen to him or her and just leave them alone. It's idiotic to kill people because there beliefs.

The single party is not a working cause just like Americas two-party system a Single-dominate party would only resemble a dictatorship.
But if a revolution does Come you may united in a single group with other groups combine but you must eliminate that group in elections because it creates fractions and just like in America parties would split and cause politics to be only about winning an election and not bringing about change or socialism.

Nationalism and Patriotism Ok on this Nationalism was a cause long ago in the past it use to stand for the right to stand for your government when oppress by another like the American revolution, Ireland, India and all the other colonies and other countries that where dominated by others.

On the other hand Patriotism is what ever you want it to be it is fighting for what you believe in. Like a quote i forget who said the is no such thing as Nationalism as no one gets to pick there Birth country that’s why it change from fight for nationalism to being Patriotic as you get to choose who you are patriotic to as i can go and move to Ireland and become a Ireland patriotic because i get to choose where my patriotism belongs just as the thousands of immigrants that move to America the choose to be Patriotic to America (or not some i don't know why they come over they hate America)

I was not saying that there where no classes after the Oct. Revolution, I was saying that after a socialist revolution that when the workers inherit the state and a true democracy is sit up (it may take months or years) but then you wouldn't have the problem of capitalist bribing everyone or anyone person doing anything because no one person rules everything. Worker councils would be set up immediately and then the government would redesign its structure first by disbanding and reorganizing the Congressional committees that take on certain task like economics, infrastructure, health care and others. This would be run on the groups that fought during the revolution as not just one group would have fought then. They will change between members of those groups and are elected by the people. The government will set up term limits and every 4 years a new member is replaced they must be replace from the same group as only certain groups would be in charge of certain committees. These groups may combine but not into a single party as it's not parties but more like interest groups, Red Armies, civilians, and other things that fought the cause. They could be anything but they must of been on the revolutionary side and fought against the rulers in the revolt but after a certain number of years no more then 10 the committees will be dissolved and then no parties or groups are in any branch of the government and they have elections for the New committees. It’s kind of set up like our Politburo but more groups would be there like how most of the American Congress it set up.
But as you eliminate Capitalism the Iron Triangle is eliminated to as most of the Interest groups become the leaders as they may have fought for the Revolutionary side. Like and Environmental group, Red Armies, Civilian Armies, Socialist Groups/Parties, Workers Rights groups, Unions, different people with different causes. All of these would then become in charge of the committees that describe them like Environmental would lead anything to do with the environment.
After the 10 or so years you would have elections for the replacement committees and congressional members. As you already had elections for other things in government and remember no parties as they are up to the individual to decide what they want it's like every citizen gets to be involved with government with out be involved because they join the private committees/citizen political parties/groups. They then get to see everything that goes through government (no secretes) and get to see first hand the things that congress or the president do and get to decide how he or she would handle it if a good idea comes from a member then the government may use the idea. These groups would be like modern political groups like I stated before and things like political news broadcast stations as they get to set up anyway they like and report on what they like and don’t like how government is doing it’s job and as they grow up and move on they can get active in run but they must not advertise their membership but only speak on their ideals and moral beliefs as people would not vote for any capitalist as they would have been wiped out by now.

It may sound wired but I am going to try and rewrite it in my own Manifesto of my beliefs and how i believe a true socialist/communist nation would be like and how it will acheive that and how it will run.

Okay.. This will take long time.

Before I start, I have to say that I am a marxist-leninist. And will talk according to the leninist theories.

Anyways, I ment we had to thank Stalin for leading the war. And it is more foolish to ask to a guy who led the war, aaa, did you kill any nazis?

Once again, the ideas which will drive the mankind go backwards is crime to the mankind and should be punished. Science decided that this ideas are crimes.

You are saying that fascist ideas are not too popular nowadays.. Come check my society. In Turkey the fascist party gets around 20%. They are highly organized and growing. Just an example.

If you believe that society which is a capitalist left over society, will think that the fascist ideas are crazy, you live in a dream. and I rather prefer speaking about the reality, not a fantasy world you have in your head. It does not exist.

In Soviet Russia, following Stalin's death, how do you think classes started to differ once again? Didnt the people rented their houses that they got from the state? Didnt the consumption materials stocked and then selled to a higher price? Believe it or not, the society doesnt change in months.. Marx talks about the creation of a new mankind, a new mankind who is willing to work for a communist society. Why do you think we have to create a new mankind? Because of the capitalist society. Capitalist society changes people.

That is the reason people who have ideas about screwign the revolution should be punished. They must stay away from the society.

I think you have some troubles understanding what socialist democracy is. Socialist democracy differs from the capitalist democracy. In capitalist democracy, we have the delusion of a democracy. Multi-Party systems are in charge but the workers in the congresses are around 20-30 out of 500 congressmen. The dictatorship of the capital! There are limitations to keep people away from the congress. eg a Party has to have 10% of the votes to go in, or a congressman should be 40 years old etc etc.

This is not democracy!

Socialist democracy does not have things like that! In socialist democracy, there is only one program to follow which is the goal of communism (It is the reason of a single party system) The society must have only one program!

Other then that... For instance, Cuba has a 17 years old girl in its congress. The avarage age is around 26 in Cuban congress. Anyone who wishes to be heard in congress can be elected to it. There is no limitations. In socialist democracy, in every factory, neighborhood, schools, the comittees are set up and these comittes are elected by the ones who live there. This committees, if they have a problem, report it to a regional comittee.

In socialist democracy, people have the right to call back the one they elected. Say that X factory elected you, and you are not doing your job, you can be called back and another election can take place. This does not exist in capitalist democracy..

The thing you have to understand is that even after the revolution, the people will not change immidiatly. It takes so much years, months, days...

Friend, I am an independent Communist (not depend on theories of communism to form my character or beliefs). Have not read all the books of Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky or El Che, however, know that a company operated and uneducated never grows. Can I take into account my Brazilian Brazil. During the era of Getulio Vargas, the political character of my parents were well characterized. ANL communist, and fascist and conservatives in IBA.

After a while, we saw an exit for socialism, we are worth at the peak of the Cold War, we grow Fifty years in Five with the Juscelino Kubitschek. He managed to decentralize power, which focused on the south west, moving the capital to the center of Brazil, creating jobs, distributing land, in general, creating rents. A penalty that ended a dictatorship financed by the United States of America, the fascist dictatorship, which exiled, killed and kidnapped many intellectuals and communists, making Brazil regress 100 years in 20. With it ending in 1980 through direct elections.
But as Brazil ended up in a two-party system during the dictatorship, the Communist Party of Brazil did not contest, making the PMDB won the election, vying with the ARENA Party (which ruled during the dictatorship).

Now, in terms of the Soviet Union. Stalin's centralized power in him, causing him to become the party. Anyone knows that he eliminated his enemies, whether at regional level (Leon Trotsky) to continental (Adolf Hitler). Still, after the second world war, where the Communists were depicted as helpers of democracy, were: Saviors for Freedom: oppressors of the General Population. Since the initial target of the Truman Doctrine was the comrade Stalin.

In conclusion: We can not know whether Stalin was a dictator, since there was a great propaganda and anti-propaganda in the world that lasts until today. Stalin was in power the Soviet Union for 29 years. But all the Secretaries General of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union remained in office until his death. However, there were the Soviets, which had its elected members. Now, finishing, Stalin is the man that everyone would love to meet people, because everyone can find his image in a man good or evil.

Ok i understand socialist democracy i didn't say a population would change in months but thats why if you read my plan the people who act like congress of American society are the people who fought in the Revolution war and act like committees on certian topics then you establish communes or soviets or co-op companys. Then reorginize the whole country systeme and allow like you said anyone to join congress but also anyone to run for presidental elections to as everything would be decided on the individual not coorporations.

but i as we seem to agree on Socialist democracy but tend to disagree on vilance means of getting rid of the oposition after the revolution we may just end it there. I do agree we must reteach people the true goals of socialism and communism but we must not act to viligantle as people would always fight for democracy what ever form it may be capitalist or socialist democracy and freedom must never be forgetting as they are the only reason most consider themselfs socialist because they belive like me that a socialist society is true democracy and there must be no subsation.

Ruaidhri Garvey wrote:I'm going to guess that the other person that voted no was mr.skin

Actually I haven´t voted when you vrote this, but I voted no and I was the fifth "no voter".
A dictator is a person who has ABSOLUTE power over everyone else.
While Stalin was elected he couldn´t possibly be a dictator. Those of you who voted "yes" should read about your politics

While a dictatorship of the proletariate the proletariates ABSOLUTE power over the other classes, which makes it a democratic
dictatorship, though it is a dictatorship of the people.

Also important about Stalin, he was never head of state, he was general secretary of the party. Michail Kalinin was the head of state at that time.

mr.skin wrote:
While Stalin was elected he couldn´t possibly be a dictator. Those of you who voted "yes" should read about your politics

But we all know what he did during the elections against Trotsky. Stalin bribed, killed and persoadiu most of the voters that Leon did not get the position of Secretário-Geral/Premier.

And in my opinion, all governments should socialists (even though most already are) have only one representative popular internationally (chairman), but no powers, only to represent the nation abroad. While the Congress taking direction from parents

Actually what you´ve heard about Trotskij is mostly trotskist lies. Read the book marxism or trotskism and you will see many facts and even that the party wanted Stalin as chairman but the first time he said that he didn´t want that power, the central commitée voted for Stalin and so did even Trotskij. The second time Stalin said that he still didn´t wanted the post but he couldn´t fail the party so he accepted and even that time Trotskij voted for him. Later Trotskij told his followers in Russia to kill soviet politicians and even blow up mines and factories so the trotskists in Soviet Union killed at least a 100´s or about one thousand people, mostly workers, but that is nothing that trotskists is proud of today but that´s the reason of the Moscow trials and why Trotskij got killed. He was nothing but a simple rightwing terrorist and opportunist.

It would be nice to see you as a Stalinist defends Stalin, altering the facts or putting other stories to justify the actions of Comrade Stalin.

Leon Trotsky organized the Red Army, won no "Trotskygrado, but fought against the invaders of Russia and the White Army. Inside of Communism, many schools have very antagonistic, but most of them stand for freedom and people power.
Stalin defended the revolution only in Russia and its neighbors, Trotsky wanted to expand the world revolution, as well as two other major communist in the Americas (Fidel Castro and Che Guevara). I already know the manual from a Trotskyist: Take a pick and the book of the Communist Manifesto, explain to him that Trotskyism is an anti-revolutionary, if not work, use the pick.

We need not start an ideological war of the same ideology, just with different schools. And it is for these reasons that I am not affiliated with any school of communism and I say independent.

I guess that trotskyists works all the same all over the world though they share the same ideology. Marxists debate with their comrades while trotskyists oppress other oppinions. I have myself been in two trotskyist groups and the both did that. They only want as many people as possible, so you don´t have to be a socialist.

Stalin said it was possible and it was necessary to build socialism in Russia while Trotskij wanted to wait until the revolution had spread to industrialized countries. But you see, it was possible to build socialism in one country. If you should wait for more developed countries to have a revolution there would not be any liberation groups in the third world, but in the third world the groups are marxist-leninists-maoists.

Trotskyism is only ideas that works and exists in industrialized countries and non-proletariate in the third world. I´m refering to Latin America when I say non-proletariate in the third world.

And Trotskij was also opponent to the Bolsjeviks and the revolution just until it was clear that they were going to win. That is opportunism - when you chose the side that will win, just because they will win.

There was "Trotskyists" during the revolution, Leon Trotsky came during the revolution, it came before or after he came over. Lenin had already written letters about the situation in Russia during the time that Trotsky came, it was economic embargo, sabotage on railway lines and cuts shipments of food to the working class neighborhoods.

As you can see, this is not opportunism, because it just created the army and led the Socialist victory, moreover, who implanted the Socialism in Russia, was Vladimir Lenin, not Stalin. Lenin's government lasted only two years, but it was a milestone in the history of communism, while Stalin made another milestone in the history of communism.

I did not live in 1917, just read books and study on the subject, because there are many details that are not revealed until today.

There´s a reason why Stalin and also Lenin is dirt-threwed by the mainstream media and not Trotskij. Because Trotskij was a friend of capitalism and anti-communist. Trotskij told his followers to support the fascists in for exemple the Spanish Civil War.

Never compare Lenin with Stalin, since Vladimir had not much time in government, and if he had, the Soviet Union would have landmarks that humanity would be proud to have. Joseph was considered a major defeat for the communist fascism on the battlefield, even if it killed 20 million people to conquer and waving the red flag in Berlin.

So you think it would be better if fascism would win?

I am in favor of pacifism and peaceful coexistence. I would not want people saying Hail Hitler on the street or Anauê. But it is much more clever ideological warfare, using propaganda than destroy humanity with bombs, gunfire, explosions, trampling or burying them alive.

But I'm sure if there was no war, we would have to be brought together in the truth of the Czech Republic, to discuss the issues put on the agenda.

You can´t be a revolutionary and still believe or be a pacifist

Sou um pacifista até o ponto que eu tiver que lutar pela minha voz no poder publico da minha nação.

I, as a Russian man who knows the history of his homeland, saying that it was the most severe of all the rulers of Russia! It was stupid, arrogant and ruthless ... If it were not for Stalin's Soviet Union would have been invincible, and the Nazis would never have come, not to Moscow, not to Stalingrad ... He executed his orders more than 1 million innocent people ... He put the economy to its knees, we have the beginning of the Second World War had almost no tanks. In addition, VE, he executed almost all the generals and Marshall, who owned the great art of war .... This is a terrible person ....

In the beginning of second world war Soviet Union had a heavy industry, which didn´t even existed in the 20´s. People died because of their sacrefices, sacrefices to build a strong country. They needed that industry.

In the 20 years there was not any industry as such, because the October Revolution completely destroyed all the global enterprise, and perhaps even the strongest in the history of Russian economic and political crisis ...

mr skin is right about the trotskist lies. Trotski was in favor of waiting the revolutions in industrialized nations. however stalin saw that the revolution age has passes in europe after the german working class failing to take over the power in germany. that is the reason stalin wanted to establish socialism. here we are talking about how he purged the generals and other political enemies. purging is a part of the leninist party. (about purging by VI Lenin)

I have to add that Stalin also saw the german war machine declaring war on Soviets, he was not stupid, he knew that the western powers supported the monster against the soviets. He saw this and signed the pat with hitler, created a buffer zone and saved the revolution. The goal is to save the revolution until the world revolution is complete.

Stalin also managed to industrialize a nation, who had nothing. wqith that industrialization Soviets passed the US production in many material.

Lenin is better than stalin because he is a better theorician. Anyone who thinks lenin was more "cool" than stalin is hopeless.

Lenin was/is more harsh then stalin, purged more then stalin.

Are u still at this jesus i posted this ages ago when betho end of V1 and 1st time i bin on here to in ages lol well its good to see this topico being used

Ok this is just crazy we are fighting each other over the past let us forgive the wrongs but not forget we can remember the goods that stalin and lenin did but fix there mistakes we are playing the same game that capitalist politics play thats why i support a no party system in government i like a more councle government one truly communist or socialist. The only reason we can't use stailn or lenin most times is because of the harsh things that went on in Russia and other countries in the soviet union but as socialist or communist we can unite and stand together to forget the wrongs but keep the good.

Capitalist do the same thing and it makes politics a dumb men sport where no one truly cares about the people they fight for. Just like in the foundation of AmericaParties creats fractions then the fractions fight each other more then careing about there goals. Communism must not split apart but most come together and try to create a new type of communism or socialism or there is no more of the wrongs of the old days but only the good things people did.

Every party that has grown big and had a revolution is those that had political struggle within the party. There´s a reason why there´s a lot of trotskyist groups in every country where trotskyists exists. It is because they don´t take the debate, they wants everyone to join them as the populists they are and if an arguing comes up, they sweaps it under the carpent. In the Marxist-Leninist-Maoistic groups there´s always debate within the party and through that way, the party stays united.

It´s logical that if you draw alot of people to you, not everyone will agree. If you´re not talking about it, persons will leave. Fraction building is the result of trotskyists. Do you know what the organisation BAND was? A jewish so called communist organisation. Its members only wanted jews to have communism. Trotskij was a member of BAND. Is that something you who believe in trotskyism believes in? I don´t think you do. Trotskij changed his statements every year and that´s the trotskyists strongest arguement. If you meet a trotskyists with something Trotskij said, like:
Trotskij said to his followers to support the fascists in 1936.
Then the trotskyist answer: no he didn´t said that, in 1931 Trotskij said that you should fight the fascists.

You understand that trotskyism is a spineless ideology for rightwing opportunists.

You are wrong ... Maybe some of Trotsky's views and actions were causing, but he was one of the few who organized the revolution for the people, not for power ... And, in fact, Stalin killed Trotsky, not because he was with the views that were adversative communist, but because Stalin was very fearful that someone so strong as trotsiky be able to throw it straight from the Kremlin to Grandfather Lenin .. ..

haha Trotskij had sympathies from intellectuals, who are always a minority.
Stalin were the only revolutionary who became high that came from the working class. He was a steel worker. Trotskij critized Lenin on the other hand and in Lenins wills (that´s what trotskyists always wants to call it) it comes no warning for Stalin, but a strong critic of Trotskij. Have anyone of you trotskyists actally read that so called wills of Lenin? No I don´t think you have...
Trotskij joined the bolsjeviks and opposed the revolution until it was inevitable. Then when he worked for Lenin, he travelled around in Russia, did some works and then he didn´t completed them so Stalin has to come after and fix it. There´s a reason why Trotskij is called "the pen".

Trotskyists says it is because he was so smart but the real reason is because what he only did was to write, no actions, he only wrote stuff.
He´s so fake.

Call me stupid, but I think that the revolution is the worst, after the Mongol-Tatar yoke, what happened to my great homeland ... It was enough, and bourgeois, but with intelligent and honest people, which at that time was much, just shot "for the revolution" took all their lives ....

I do not think any communist or people who call themselves communists should criticise the october revolution. The revolution itself has to be promoted against the capitalist propaganda.

Trotsky was not a traitor. Trotsky was a revolutionary. We have to give that to him. His views may be stupid and i can not say anything to that but he was not a traitor.

Trotsky did not want the revolution, he did not want to establish socialism in one nation. He chose the path of waiting for things to happen. Trotsy did not see that the revolution phases was over in europe. He did not see the failure of german working class. He did not see many more things.

He was an opportunist like Nikita Khrushchev.. After his departure from the union, he was being a threth to the existance of the union. helping the propaganda machine of the capitalists. condeming the revolution and all.

And I do not think so I do not call myself a communist, but I be socialist, communist system still deceptive, the most striking example of the Soviet Union, believe me, although I do not live in the USSR, as born in 1991, but my ancestors and no freedom there was no counters were empty, people were forced to cheat to get what they truly deserve ... Besides, no one anywhere in the Soviet Union just could not leave ... As if the USSR is a prison ....

Wow 1991 me too i was born that year in America.

How is Russia like today do you like or hate it?

I want to Visit some time also i would love to learn Russian?

Russia is my homeland. I can not speak about her bad, and such comments do not have ... Russia, as always, is separate from its government, which unfortunately has accumulated a lot of questions about finances and human ... If you want to learn Russian, you must have a firm will, believe me, English is only 1/5 part of the whole Russian language ... It is much harder to Grammar and cases ... Generally 5 years in school we, Russian, learn our own language, it is difficult ...