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Post by Feffo Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:36 pm

Comrades,

I have to say some things to you, which are REALLY important. I've been here in Czech for a lot of time, maybe a year. I've seen a lot of things passing and I've worked hard for the socialist project.

But at this point I'm a bit tired of this job, which is, honestly, very hard.

I have some proposals though.

When we were here before getting the power we had well working Communes and we had good relashionships with the RL Czech. It was a happy time, really. And we were the promoters of the Internationale around the World. Also Red Army fought many times and was able to do that because of Czech community.

We can spread Socialism also in the military way, but we need all the Czech Socialist Community to work for it. With the Communes, in fact, we can earn money to buy some new weapon, food and ticket factories, increasing Red Army strenght.

Czech Republic will be a sort of HQ State of the Red Army....So my question is: would you like to join such a project? To sum everything we should:

- Keep some members in the Congress to have a representance.
- Work for the Red Army's sake.
- Fight around the World with the other Comrades for the freedom of oppressed people, which was our original aim.

I'm also planning to build a FB page for the Internationale.

Let me know Comrades!

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Post by chorrito Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:27 pm

As we have experienced a major defeat in the electoral area, for a while, it's crucial that we focus on some other areas, too. And the Red Army would be very appropriate for that.

What can we do?

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Post by aldameldo Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:22 pm

I saw the electoral result, and it didn't surprise me. I think the Movement is in a period of decline.
I would trust Feffo even blindfolded, but think I have to make some comments and critique.

Anyway, I think CSP (as parent party), well Feffo himself, should take all other parties' chiefs and talk to them, about the situation, and about unity. Guys, the fact that you have golds, doesn't mean you should plant "socialist" parties everywhere...

I also believe we should claim a decent number of Congress seats.

About the Army project, I fully support Feffo's proposal. If New Zealand can play a role in RA development, then you'll have us next to you!

But in order to bring new Commune system back, I believe you should agree on lowering back the taxes, since cappies control Congres.

Hope that helped. Wink
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Post by Maria_M Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:45 pm

Well, there is no power without the Capital. We were successful in the past because we had a working commune system bringing us finances while the capitalists could not match our market prices. With all our orgs and gold lost we have had no means how to run the country. We can't be efficient if there are no job offers on the market, if the people are starving and dying. I am supporting Feffo's plan to rebuild the commune system but we have to be careful not to lose them in the future. I experienced the same rise & fall in Slovakia before, now the same thing repeated here. We have to find a way to disintegrate the commune system so a loss of one part won't affect the other parts of the commune system. I have learned in Czechoslovak army I was a part of in the past that several independent parts can work and cooperate together very well. Czechoslovak army was based on the similar concept with a little different approach to minimal wage & donations - I would like to try this system here as well - maybe as a military alternative to the current communes. With enough Capital to sustain the small army we can start helping the others but right now we need a lot of help and dedication from all of us.
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Post by Feffo Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:57 am

Of course we would go ahead also in the political area, we would be like a Community which works as a commune =) Every people involved in our party should work for us, at least if we can give them jobs. At the moment we need 8 more workers to get the highest productivity and we'll also build Stone and Grain Communes in Czech so 20 new people. And the money that we earn will be used to upgrade/buy companies, increasing our power and attracting new people. This would mean create a socialist community, which is very close to a socialist State...What do you think about that?

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Post by Simonov Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:37 am

Aldameldo NZ will play role in RA after we start with real work. I like Feffo's idea and that's the most important thing in erepublik. Communes are almost everything for eSocialism...after communes there goes congress and erepublik politic mechanics.

Down with bureaucracy
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Post by Sir Robert dudley Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:41 am

Hail eSocialism and Hail this idea...I think that if we get communes to operate very efficently and back to their normal selfs and orinigal plan then we can grow and support the Red Army which migh be benficial to the Defenice of Czech in near time and other countries too. Once we do that we then could liberate places around the eWorld and we should promote peace and solidarity doing this might make us look like the liberatiors we should be creating intreast in the idea and allowing us to go once people move to Czech and order to join our movement. We may be down this election but that is normal after the fact that Skin and Utku basicly almost destoryed the eSocialism movement altogether by Changing it to the eStalinism Movement/eCommunism movement.

I think if we create one to Two parties we will be better off. Three at this time is very weak and altough i loved the idea of Fourth Way i may have to give it up in fear of PTO.....Sad Sad ....

I am still plaing on writing an article expalining the orinigal idea of the Fourth Way to get intreast out there for the Belivers that use to support us and still would like to.....

If we do create a commune system i do thing we need to change things around abit and not allow that one or few people control everything i think power should be split and shared and decided by the people there.......
true Socialism the workers actually have the power over the Companys and not just the portibol head and his ministers...

Also No life Terms. each postion if any on the Staff in a party should not allow to hold the Term for ever as some might pland to do something and some just get plan tired of doing the same job for months....

I really think that the three main Socialist parties need to sit down and order to debate out the Soulition to this problem. in order to come up with the ultimate plan... Maybe we should just all unite into one party or maybe hold Two parites under some system but just two leaders...

WE need to discuse when to do this meeting and the other detalis it is time to be proative and not deactive in the time of disbelief and uncerintainty...
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Post by Feffo Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:31 pm

Ok so I'm going to organize a meeting with all the Party Presidents and then we'll publish an article in which we'll write what we have decided, ok? We need to organize everything Wink

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Post by aldameldo Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:43 pm

Tell me when the meeting is, I would like to attend, as an observer of course.
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Post by RedBaxter Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:46 pm

What about political cooperation with present government?
I believe we should stand on our socialist principles and lead active conversations with CRU.
Going passive once again (way CSP was in past and passivity shown by most of you, except chorrito and Mestre Luiz lately) wont bring much, in fact it would harm leftist political movement Wink
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Post by Feffo Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:37 am

Well a cooperation could be done...I mean at least don't try to destroy each other Very Happy This would be another way to play socialism in this game...

Anyway I'm available on Sunday for the meeting...

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Post by Maria_M Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:50 pm

Sunday is fine for me just let me know the approximate time - I don't want to spend whole day waiting like I did last time when nobody but Aldameldo showed up.
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Post by Feffo Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:15 am

Guys what about 12 eRep Time?

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Post by Maria_M Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:16 am

Fine, works for me. Do we meet on irc or eRep chatroom?
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Post by Feffo Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:37 am

Read the MP. I'm busy guys sorry... =( We have to discuss here, and fastly...Anyway if you haven't done yet please join our communes!

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Post by chorrito Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:48 pm

Ok. No problem Feffo.

A cooperation with CRU on some grounds would be beneficial for us to gain support again. But, I'm sure we will break at a point. The best thing we can do is to unite around only one candidate in the coming elections to show that all parties are still cooperating and there is not such a thing like "break-away" in the left, but maybe there is a discussion about political issues.

We now have two candidates. One is Feffo, the other is Mustafa Suphi, also supported by The Fourth Way. Which is the best candidate?

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Post by RedBaxter Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:57 pm

what about Leo Ruby? Very Happy
thats quite of a dispersion
we all stand behind empty ideals, looks like.
I still hadnt saw a word from Mustapha btw
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Post by Feffo Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:26 pm

chorrito wrote:The best thing we can do is to unite around only one candidate in the coming elections to show that all parties are still cooperating and there is not such a thing like "break-away" in the left, but maybe there is a discussion about political issues.

We now have two candidates. One is Feffo, the other is Mustafa Suphi, also supported by The Fourth Way. Which is the best candidate?

We should discuss it in a topic and fastly, maybe with a poll.

Anyway it doesn't matter, we should have a common goal and I think we do have Wink
If all of you agree on my plan we don't have to discuss any longer, we already agree Very Happy


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Post by Sir Robert dudley Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:23 pm

Ok guys i might not be active until either monday or tuesday night... so this meeting can happen with out me our just wait until thursday or friday...
well for President i will support either feffo or mustafaf it don't matter i only pick to support mustafa at the time as it was one of the only left wing presidents running and i was going to try and get the Fourth Way fundelmentals down and to the point....which i am expecting that i will write one or buch of articles explaining it and it's goals.

but now that the fourth way might be in PTO threat with these copies which if someone could report please there should be a way to find out if all of these members or real or not in any party...

maybe we should do something to prevent these ghost to cheate and join partys the admins should do something to prevent this maybe like real Polticial parties the heads could decide to accepte people on certain ways like you have to pay or do something to join a poltical party to prove your real.
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Post by Feffo Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:59 pm

So guys...

Our next steps should be these ones:

1) Do some propaganda.
2) Ask people to work in Svoboda Communes. These are the only ones we have and we need at least to have 10 workers in the Food Company and 20 in the House one. Then we also have a Grain Commune and a Ticket in case we have too many people.
3) Choose the President in the poll.

Can we start?

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Post by Maria_M Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:21 pm

Well, Feffo have announced to run for presidency so I would support him. I am working in the grain commune already - you can use the grain I produce for the food company.
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